Obama's revised Guantanamo hearings

[Hilo_boy]

Good news fellow bike enthusiasts, have we not all heard about the proposed and codified Obama administrations 'revised and recommended' trial procedures in regard to those held on terror charges or enemy combatants?

Simple question, short and sweet, how effective will these new mandates be in convicting X amount of those being held and properly be dealt with in a just manner?

Sad to say sports fans, this thing is going to get ugly, sadder yet, very few of these individuals will be convicted and hence justice for Americans at home and abroad who have been killed or injured will not be adhered to.

A sad moment in the American Judicial system I must say. I am not a war monger, I am not a vigilanty extrodinare, yet in the event when these heinous individuals scoff at our freedoms, liberties and very existience , how and where shall justice be metted out?

I do beleive that those put in place within the Obama administration, at least those within the military attache and departments, are in the right direction in how to proceed with Afgahnistan to a large degree. Shifting from a 'occupying' military prescence to that of a cordinated attackin element. Bringing back the good ole sneak, grab and kick you in the arse concept of small unit tactics and thinkin.

I could be wrong, yet I really think a majority of these individuals currently being held will be either repatriated to country of origin, at the expense of the American Tax payer, and will of course somewhere down the line continue to be a very large flea or tick on our Arse. So once again, what method, time and place?

Open for suggestions, then I will see what kind of pull , info or influence I can have within the circles which be on how to ascend upon such a scenario.

[koolvk]

Obama needs to release the other half of the reports on enhanced interrogation. He's released the "how" but not the results. The only reason he has not to release both is that it worked, and he can't admit that Bush did something right.

Non-uniformed terrorists are not protected by Geneva, let along the US constitution...

[Sir Wadsalot]

Step 1, close Guantanamo.

Step 3, no more detainee problem.

It's like the undewear gnomes from southpark-

Step 1, steal underpants.

Step 3, profit.

Ummmm, WTF is step 2?

Morons.

And as far as small unit tactics, that's how they've been handling Afghanastan for years. Lots of A-teams. The Obama administration is only sending more troops there now, so he can say "look what a good job I'm doing" in Afghanastan, while Iraq completely degenerates because of his pullout strategy. He will say Afghanastan is his baby and it's good, while Iraq was the right's baby, and look what a mess it is......just like Vietnam, it's a self fulfilling prophesy. Iraq will be in flames by December, mark my words, and everyone will blame Bush. Morons.

[Hilo_boy]

Certain elements within Iraq are lickin their chops as we speak. I can see it possibly erupting again in Iraq by December as you have mentioned Wads. Municipal Govenors and officials are pleading American Units not to leave, I guess they dont have faith at this point in there police or Iraqi guard units at this point. I think there is a lot of Nepotism and corrupt elements within the local governments in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

[bikertrash]

Originally Posted by Hilo_boy Good news fellow bike enthusiasts, have we not all heard about the proposed and codified Obama administrations 'revised and recommended' trial procedures in regard to those held on terror charges or enemy combatants?

We're gonna ask them if they're bad. When they say no, we're gonna apologize, let them go and give them money Just watch.

Simple question, short and sweet, how effective will these new mandates be in convicting X amount of those being held and properly be dealt with in a just manner?

It depends on which level of the "Complacent Americana" they have the media direct it towards.

Sad to say sports fans, this thing is going to get ugly, sadder yet, very few of these individuals will be convicted and hence justice for Americans at home and abroad who have been killed or injured will not be adhered to.

I hate to say it, but the new administration believes they deserve human rights. I call Bull$hit on that! They should have NO rights. The guilty that have killed innocent civilians and protecting forces should have NO rights! You get what you give in my book.

A sad moment in the American Judicial system I must say. I am not a war monger, I am not a vigilanty extrodinare, yet in the event when these heinous individuals scoff at our freedoms, liberties and very existience , how and where shall justice be metted out?

But if things got bad you'd be the first in your social circle to stand up and do what has to be done without a second thought.

I do beleive that those put in place within the Obama administration, at least those within the military attache and departments, are in the right direction in how to proceed with Afgahnistan to a large degree. Shifting from a 'occupying' military prescence to that of a cordinated attackin element. Bringing back the good ole sneak, grab and kick you in the arse concept of small unit tactics and thinkin. I could be wrong, yet I really think a majority of these individuals currently being held will be either repatriated to country of origin, at the expense of the American Tax payer, and will of course somewhere down the line continue to be a very large flea or tick on our Arse. So once again, what method, time and place? Open for suggestions, then I will see what kind of pull , info or influence I can have within the circles which be on how to ascend upon such a scenario.

We put them all on a ship to return to their motherland. Somewhere while at sea we take one of our subs (that doesn't exist) and put an end to it quietly and quickly. No news cameras way out at sea. As far as everyone knows, they made it home.

[Hilo_boy]

Trev, excellent analysis and in depth recant of my concern over the current presidential administration in handling the combatants and terrorists currently in custody.

I was being civil in my opening of the thread, yet I do harbor nothing but ill fortune, mental & physical duress and anguish for such individuals. If an open season was put on any of them, regardless of age or gender, yes, you are correct, I would be the first to be hunting.

Personally, I think a large majority of America, regardless of political, religious or economic affiliation really needs to get their heads out of there Arses and see this for what this really is, which is these Fockers were preachin the sand script to high heavens, killin maiming and possibly worse in the name of some douche bag, lead by the Bin Laden himself. No friggin rights for these boy lovers period.

Boo Hooo these people have not been formally charged or convicted, funk that give me half of the guys in my old regiment and let us take care of business, I make no bones about it, I would relish and cherish the chance to let these dirt bags meet there maker, I more than likely would be brought up on War Crimes myself.